
Next steps for GOP after dropping Jordan as speaker nominee
Clip: 10/20/2023 | 3m 57sVideo has Closed Captions
The next steps for House Republicans after dropping Jim Jordan as speaker nominee
At the Capitol, Republican Jim Jordan is out in the race for speaker of the House. GOP lawmakers voted behind closed doors to dismiss him as their nominee after he again failed to win the job on the House floor. Now the party is once again left grappling with whether anyone can unite its divided members. Lisa Desjardins reports.
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Next steps for GOP after dropping Jordan as speaker nominee
Clip: 10/20/2023 | 3m 57sVideo has Closed Captions
At the Capitol, Republican Jim Jordan is out in the race for speaker of the House. GOP lawmakers voted behind closed doors to dismiss him as their nominee after he again failed to win the job on the House floor. Now the party is once again left grappling with whether anyone can unite its divided members. Lisa Desjardins reports.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipGEOFF BENNETT: At the U.S. Capitol, Republican Jim Jordan is out of the race for speaker of the House.
Republicans voted behind closed doors to dismiss him as their nominee after he yet again failed to win the job on the House floor today.
Now the party is once again left grappling with whether anyone can unite its divided members.
Lisa Desjardins joins us now in studio after spending countless hours on the Hill this week.
Lisa, how are you doing?
(LAUGHTER) GEOFF BENNETT: The -- so, Jim Jordan, as of 9:00 this morning, he was in the speaker race.
By 2:00 p.m., he was out.
What happened?
LISA DESJARDINS: We have had roughly five news cycles since you and I last spoke last night in this situation.
Jim Jordan this morning said he was going to make the House vote over and over and over again, at least his allies were going to, until he won.
But on the very first vote, he lost momentum.
And then he decided, let's go back behind closed doors and see what the conference thinks.
The conference sent a very clear message, overwhelmingly saying, no, we do not want you to be our nominee anymore.
Now, after that happened, of course, emotions were high.
One of the first out of the meeting was one of Jim Jordan's allies, Anna Luna.
This was her reaction.
REP. ANNA PAULINA LUNA (R-FL): I think that people up here care more about being in Washington than what their voters are asking them to do.
We had people leaving today.
We have no speaker.
We have a war in the Middle East, and people care more about their own personal egos than this country.
LISA DESJARDINS: Now, of course, all sides are pointing to everyone else's egos in this situation.
But with the collapse of Jim Jordan, there is also an opportunity here.
Now the major candidates for speaker are all off the board.
So, this opens up to the entire House conference now, which over the weekend is going to say, anyone who wants to run for speaker, put your hat in the ring by Sunday.
One of those people is Kevin Hern of Oklahoma.
Here's what he told me today.
REP. KEVIN HERN (R-OK): People want to be heard.
They want to be valued.
And I think that's what you're seeing right now.
And there's a lot of historical relationships that some are not going to ever be able to work around.
And I don't have those negatives out there.
LISA DESJARDINS: There's that word again, egos.
Obviously, people trying to say they have less ego than everyone else.
But I will tell you, there are plenty of egos to go around.
Right now, we have about half-a-dozen, at least, candidates for speaker.
Basically, there's about 200 people.
Almost every House Republican is thinking about it right now.
GEOFF BENNETT: And Kevin Hern is saying, what, he doesn't have the baggage that other Republicans might have?
LISA DESJARDINS: That's right.
GEOFF BENNETT: So what does Jim Jordan's quick rise and fall in this House speaker race, what are Republicans saying about that?
What does that signal, if anything?
LISA DESJARDINS: Yes.
I think we realize that the fractures within the Republican Party go in many more directions than even we realize.
There is kind of a break, not just between the Freedom Caucus kinds of conservatives, but sort of the Matt Gaetz types, those who will go against everyone at all costs.
Then there are those who -- Jim Jordan, who really have sort of a Trump and MAGA agenda as well.
But I looked at the votes, and I think there was something to learn from them.
Let's go over exactly what happened with Jim Jordan here.
Now, on the House floor yesterday, he received 199 votes, all Republicans.
Today, that went to 194 votes.
But the secret ballot, an hour after that floor vote, Geoff, 86 votes... GEOFF BENNETT: Wow.
LISA DESJARDINS: ... from the same Republicans who had just given him 194 votes.
It will not shock our audience that politicians are doing something in public very different than what they believe in private.
Now, there is a rule where Republicans are supposed to support their nominee on the floor, but, nonetheless, they were supporting a man that they did not want to be speaker.
GEOFF BENNETT: So what happens on Monday?
Is that known?
LISA DESJARDINS: Well, we're going to have speeches from everyone who puts their name in the hat, and then the hope is for votes Tuesday.
But it is, I don't have to say this, unclear if that is what will, in fact, happen.
I'm hopeful.
I'm hopeful that perhaps something will happen.
GEOFF BENNETT: One can hope.
We know for sure you will be covering it all, along with our great team there on the Hill.
Lisa Desjardins, thanks so much.
LISA DESJARDINS: You're welcome.
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