>>> LET'S TAKE YOU BACK TO SUMMER 2020.

PROTESTS AND RIOTS ALL OVER THE CITY.

ONE SUCH PROTEST IN HYDE PARK, AN ONLOOKER WITNESSES A POLICE OFFICER USING FORCE AGAINST A CIVILIAN AND FINDS HIMSELF PART OF THE MELEE.

THAT HAPPENED TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHICAGO POLICE BOARD DION FOREMAN.

A DISCIPLINARY BODY HAS RECOMMENDED A 90-DAY SUSPENSION FOR THE POLICE OFFICER INVOLVED.

JOINING US IS FOREMAN HIMSELF.

GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

SO, WE SET THE STAGE THERE.

YOU ARE AT A PROTEST.

YOU ARE WITNESSING THIS GOING DOWN.

TAKE US THROUGH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

>> IT WAS AN UNREAL SITUATION.

ONE THAT YOU NEVER EXPECT YOURSELF TO BE IN.

I SAW JUST CHAOS.

POLICE OFFICERS HITTING CIVILIANS.

CIVILIANS HITTING POLICE OFFICERS.

IT WAS CRAZY.

AND SO YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO STEP IN AND TRIED TO KIND OF CALM SITUATIONS DOWN.

I ULTIMATELY ENDED UP GETTING HIT BY A POLICE OFFICER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST TRIED TO CONTINUE TO JUST, THIS WHOLE THING TOOK PLACE OVER PROBABLY ABOUT THE COURSE OF AN HOUR.

>> AND CLEARLY, THE POLICE OFFICER DIDN'T KNOW WHO YOU WERE.

YOU WERE THE HEAD OF THE CHICAGO POLICE BOARD.

HE CLUBBED YOU FIVE TIMES IN THE LEG AND YOU HAD SIGNIFICANT INJURIES.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SIGNIFICANT BUT IT HURT.

>> WELL WE JUST GOT THE REPORT FROM COPA THAT OFFICER INVOLVED WILL RECEIVE A 90-DAY SUSPENSION.

YOUR REACTION TO THE DISCIPLINE?

>> IT WILL GO TO ARBITRATION.

ULTIMATELY, THERE WILL BE SOME DISCIPLINE.

YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE DAY THAT, TWO DAYS REALLY WHERE ALL OF CHICAGO LOST.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS A WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY OR THE POLICE OFFICERS.

AND SO, IN ANY ACTION, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AFTER ACTION REVIEW.

AND SO I THINK THE PLACE WHERE WE ARE NOW IS TO REALLY KIND OF THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE ADVANCE FROM THIS?

THIS WON'T BE THE LAST RIOT IN CHICAGO.

THIS WASN'T THE FIRST.

SO HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS?

THIS PARTICULAR OFFICER I THINK AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THE TOOLS THAT HE HAD.

YEAH.

HE USED THE WRONG TOOL.

RIGHT?

IS THAT THE RIGHT SUSPENSION?

IS THAT THE WRONG TIME FOR SUSPENSION?

THAT'S WHERE THE ARBITRATORS WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

I THINK THERE IS DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT SOME MEDIATION.

WHERE HE AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY CAN SIT DOWN, WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

HOW DO WE NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN AND HOW CAN WE BUILD SOME BRIDGES WITHIN THE POLICE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OF CHICAGO COMMUNITY SO WE CAN AVOID THINGS LIKE THIS.

>> HAVE YOU TALK TODAY THE OFFICER INVOLVED AT ALL?

ARE YOU STILL LOOKING TO DO THAT IN.

>> I HAVE NOT.

I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO.

I HAVE SEEN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET TO TALK.

MY TIME ON THE BOARD, I GOT A CHANCE TO LEARN.

WHAT POLICE OFFICERS DO ON A REGULAR BASIS.

RIGHT?

AND WE ASK A LOT OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS.

ACTUALLY I HAVE DEVELOPED THIS HABIT OF JUST SAYING THANK YOU TO THEM WHEN I SEE THEM.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I NECESSARILY THINK OF POLICE OFFICERS.

OH, THEY ARE BAD.

BAD THINGS HAPPEN.

RIGHT?

AND I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TREAT POLICE OFFICERS AS PROFESSIONAL.

AND SO YEAH.

I DEFINITELY WOULD WELCOME THAT OPPORTUNITY.

NOT JUST US ONE ON ONE.

BUT MAYBE OTHERS.

RIGHT?

LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION.

LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE WE HAVE SIMILARITIES AND WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING FOR OUR CITY.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE COMMAND STRUCTURE?

THERE'S THE ACTIONS OF THE OFFICER, WHAT ABOUT THE FOLKS ABOVE HIM?

THINGS HAPPEN THE WAY THEY SHOULD?

>> NOW KNOW.

IT IS HARD TO SAY IF THINGS SHOULD HAPPEN THE WAY THEY SHOULD.

AND WHEN I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF YOUR PRODUCERS EARLIER IN THE DAY.

AND THINKING ABOUT IT.

RIGHT?

I THINK THAT I OWE THE COMMANDER AN APOLOGY.

RIGHT?

IT WAS A MELEE.

AND I WENT UP TO HIM AND WE KNOW EACH OTHER AND I SAID MAN, YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB AND I WAS BLASTING HIM BUT I WASN'T IN HIS SHOES.

IT WAS CHAOS.

IT WAS PANDEMONIUM.

BUT THERE WAS A LIEUTENANT.

CHARLIE JOHNSON.

I KNEW CHARLIE.

HE GREW UP IN THE PROJECTS.

I SAID CHARLIE, MAN, YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING.

HE SAID IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING, STOP BEING OVER HERE TALKING TO ME.

GO OVER AND TRY TO HELP US GET THIS SITUATION UNDER CONTROL.

SO THAT LEADERSHIP THAT HE SHOWED KIND OF STOPPED ME.

GOT ME OUT OF THIS SITUATION OF BEING SO UPSET.

AND I WENT OVER AND I TRIED TO HELP KIND OF CALM THE SITUATION.

AND THOSE ARE THE KIND OF STORIES THAT DON'T GET TOLD OF THAT DAY.

RIGHT?

THAT KIND OF LEADERSHIP THAT DOESN'T GET TOLD HOW I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO TELL THAT.

WE TALK ABOUT WHEN THE POLICE DO BAD THINGS BUT WE RARELY TALK ABOUT WHEN THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT IN THE FACE OF A LOT OF ADVERSITY.

>> NO DOUBT.

THOSE STORIES SHOULD BE TOLD AS WELL.

YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE BEEN ON A POLICE FORCE FOR 13 YEARS NOW.

YOU ARE GOING TO BE LEAVING THERE IN AUGUST.

WHAT IS YOUR ADVICE FOR MAYOR-ELECT BRANDON JOHNSON SEEING WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN OVER THESE 13 YEARS AND HOW HE SHOULD HANDLE PUBLIC SAFETY?

>> IT IS COMPLEX.

YOU KNOW.

WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSION AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO EMBRACE THIS NEW COMMISSION.

I THINK THIS NEW COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE OF BEING SOME OF THAT BRIDGE BUILDING.

THEY HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITIES ON THE POLICE BOARD.

FOR COPA, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE IEG.

THEY WILL BE INTERACTING WITH THE MAYOR AND THE COMMUNITY.

THE MAYOR WILL BE THE MAYOR FOR EVERYONE.

HE WILL BE THE MAYOR FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE OFFICERS.

HE WILL HAVE TO BALANCE SOME THINGS.

AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TIME I THINK OF BRIDGE BUILDING AND WE ALL WANT THE SAME THINGS FOR OUR CITY.

A BETTER CITY.

WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF GOING ABOUT THAT.

SO I THINK IT WILL BE A LOT OF COMMUNICATION THAT